#27: Realities Of Being A Content Creator (With Ryan Tu)

 
 
 

Episode Shownotes

Have you ever wanted to peek inside the life of a  content creator? 

Or are you pursuing that path and want to know more?

In this episode, I speak with Ryan Tu, award-winning travel filmmaker and photographer. He shares how he turned his pandemic hobby into his dream job and how he overcame imposter syndrome,  finding his creative confidence working with tourism brands and influencers like Lost LeBlanc. 

Ryan discusses the challenges of being a part of the fast-paced world of content creation, and the importance of understanding your own creative process. He shares his tips for storytelling and emotion-driven content creation, and how it's possible to achieve content creation success without years of study.

Uncover inspiration and practical tips for defining your unique creative processes and finding success in content creation or any dream role. 

“When I'm making videos, I want to evoke some sort of emotion or feeling or give people chills. That's that storytelling. That's my jam.”

Now, let's dive into the six key takeaways from this episode. 

  1. Understanding your own creative process is essential to success in content creation. Ryan suggests finding out what works for you and sticking with it. This could be anything from shooting without a shot list to planning everything out. It's important to figure out what makes you feel most creative and productive.

  2. Ryan emphasizes the importance of having creative freedom. He suggests that clients hire you for your uniqueness and creativity, so it's essential to have the freedom to create whatever you want. This way, you can create something that you're proud of and that showcases your skills and style.

  3. It's important to be intentional and put down the camera to live in the moment and enjoy the present. Ryan suggests having moments where you just put down the camera and enjoy the moment without any distractions. This way, you can fully immerse yourself in the experience and create memories that will last a lifetime.

  4. Travel content creation can be broad and depends on the purpose of your content. Ryan mostly works with tourism brands or companies, and each project is different, with different deliverables. For this reason, it's essential to understand the purpose of your content and tailor your approach accordingly.

  5. Ryan shares his tips for storytelling and emotion-driven content creation. He suggests that you should try to evoke some sort of emotion or feeling in your audience. Ryan is passionate about storytelling and creating emotion-driven content, and he believes that this is what sets you apart from other creators.

  6. It's possible to achieve content creation success without years of study. Ryan's inspiring journey shows that with passion, dedication, and hard work, it's possible to achieve your dream job and be successful as a content creator. So if you're interested in pursuing a career in this field, don't be discouraged by the lack of formal education or experience.

Overall, Ryan's story is an inspiring one, and it shows that with passion, dedication, and hard work, it's possible to achieve your dream job and be successful as a content creator. So if you're interested in becoming a travel filmmaker or photographer, or if you're already doing it on the side and have questions or are not quite sure how it works exactly, be sure to listen to this episode of Free Wild Souls.


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Episode Transcript

Ryan Tu: In a way you're shocked that it happened, but then also you're like, I already envisioned this. It was already in your head and now it's just a reality. But then you also had low expectations that it's like, whoa, I didn't think this was actually gonna happen in a way,

Emily Peilan: because if you can't dream it, How could it ever become a reality?

Hello, my beautiful friends and welcome back to another guest episode. Today we have Ryan Tu. He is one of the most incredible videographers in content creators that I've discovered. And the last year, so Ryan is a travel filmmaker and photographer based in Bali, Indonesia, and what started for him as a hobby during the pandemic actually turned into a full-time career after just a few quick years, and he's gotten the opportunity to travel around the world, work with some of the most incredible people in the industry, and influencers like Lost Le Blanc.

I think it's so incredible what he's been able to accomplish in just such a short time, and it just goes to show. That you don't need to study for five years and to wait 10 years before you're finally able to achieve this freedom for yourself. So in this episode, we talk about Ryan's story and how he got to where he has now, how he got started in videography and ended up landing in this dream job with Los Le Blanc and moving his whole life to Bali.

And from there, everything took off for him, but it definitely wasn't easy. There were a lot of challenges and we dive into that feeling of just not quite fitting in at the start. And this imposter syndrome, which most creators face. And we dive into what it's like to be a part of this fast paced world, what a typical day looks like for Ryan on a shoot.

He gets to stay at beautiful luxury resorts and I was curious to ask him, how much time do you actually spend enjoying the place that you are in versus content creating all the time and stressing to, to get the right. What I loved about my conversation with Ryan was just how open he was to exploring the mindset side of content creating, as well as the business side and freelancing side of it all.

Because it's so different when you are employed versus when you're out on your own and this is a whole different game. So it was really cool and I really appreciated his openness and his honesty about all those things. And so for anyone looking to get into content creating, or you are already doing it on the side, but you've just got questions, you're not quite sure how it works exactly.

You are needing to build some more confidence. I know that it really helps to hear someone else's story and how they got there. And so I hope you find what you need in this episode and I will see you on the other side. It's so rare for me. To feel so much emotion, just watching somebody's reels.

 You get so many fast-paced ones where people are like dancing and it's go, go, go, go. And with yours it just, I just sink into it. Like into the story with the music, the way you edit and when you go underwater. Just that kind of subdued sound. And I'm like, wow. Like you, I feel I there really, that means so much.

Ryan Tu: That means so much. Cause it's like when I'm making videos, I want to evoke it some sort of emotion or like feeling or give people chills. That's that storytelling. That's my jam. I love that. Yeah. Storytelling, like emotion driven content. Oh good.

Emily Peilan: And I wanna get into that more. All creating this content.

Do you have this whole storyline of how you want it to end up post edit while you are shooting it? Do you plan all of it or do you go with the flow and then as you're editing it you're like, Ooh, this is what's coming up for me. This is the d, the direction I wanna go in.

Ryan Tu: It depends, cuz as a travel creator, a lot of things just happen.

And so sometimes I'm just like capturing moments. I'm just filming it without sort of like a shot list of this is what I want in this reel and then shooting it all. But then sometimes I'll have a shot list and create that as I envisioned it, if that makes sense. So it depends on like the shoe, what I'm doing, what the purpose of the reel is.

If it's for a client or something, then I'll obviously be like having a pre-production planning. Yeah. But a lot of the times the travels, it's just like you're going out and venturing with your friends, shooting. And then after when I'm editing I'm like, Hey look, can I do to create an emotion?

Can I like have some sound design or some, like what song would really fit this vibe? So yeah. Yeah. It's kind of a mix of.

Emily Peilan: Cool. I'd love for you to also just dispel this myth a little bit for the people who are like, what's travel content creating? What is it to be a destination videographer or a photographer, you know, let's like paint us a picture of what does it actually look like on a day of a shoot for a client, you know?

. Is the client have say in exactly what happens or is it mostly creative freedom? And then when you are on the shoot in a beautiful location, you know, how much time are you spending creating and how much time do you get to actually enjoy the space?

Ryan Tu: Yeah. Right. And where you, so I think.

I think travel content creation is broad. Like some people, like for example, shoot like portraits in fashion and they travel around the world like shooting models and stuff. Some people do travel logs for YouTube. Like it depends on what the purpose of your content is.

For me and what I've done in the past, like year and a bit mostly working with like tourism brands or some companies, like I got like a sunglass brand to, to send me some stuff and I'm working with them. Or like working with hotels. So each project is different and there's different deliverables.

So for example, with a hotel club you'll send you they'll have an agreement like, hey, you need a post, you know, a real couple stories and then send all the content for like drone. So when you're there you have a shot list, if that makes sense of what to create. And then it's amazing to have that creative freedom to be able to create whatever you want, cuz.

I feel like they're hiring you or they're collaboration, they're collaborating with you for your kind of uniqueness in your, create your creativity. So, yeah. For like enjoying the moment. I mean, whenever I travel I definitely have very intentional moments where I'm like, no filming.

This is a really pretty sunset. Let's film for 10 minutes and then we're just gonna enjoy it. No phones, no cameras, and it's just have, live in the moment. Pretty much be present in the moment. Cuz it can be super easy to wanna shoot everything and oh my God, this is such a good shot.

This is such a good shot. And it's something I'm really passionate about in I mean, if you do it as a living, it's like you're, you love doing it doesn't really feel like work. But it sucks when I look. You

Emily Peilan: forget to live the moment and you like at C Yeah. And then you're like, oh, I was so busy shooting.

I didn't even get to see the sunset with my

Ryan Tu: eyes. Exactly. For sure. And like I've had moments or trips where I'm looking back and I'm like, I was just shooting the entire time. Like I didn't even get to like really enjoy it or I was like stressed cuz I wanted so many shots and stuff. So, yeah, just having that time to have no cameras, no phone and just be present is definitely something I'm trying to implement on more of my trips and shoots and stuff.

But yeah, I mean even when I'm shooting it's like I'm, it doesn't really feel like work most of the time. It's something I've really wanted to do and it's my passion. So it's yeah, it doesn't really feel like work. So

Emily Peilan: do you, out of curiosity, do you prefer the shooting part and the planning part or the editing part or kind of both

Ryan Tu: Equally.

I like both. I think it's just harder to find time to edit, especially if you're like constantly traveling or if you're in Bali and there's always just so many different, like I love Bali cuz there's so many different creatives and just people here that like to network to shoot with, to collaborate with.

So it could be so easy to always be shooting and then not having time to edit anything. Yeah. So I love editing. It's just like I need to find a way to find more time to edit. Yeah. Yeah, cause like I've been traveling for a year and a bit and I wanna make like a travel film of everything that I shot, but I haven't had the time to do so and so I'm trying to figure out, yeah, that's like a passion project that I really wanna work on.

And. So cool. Yeah, just trying to find that time to edit and not get so caught up in wanting to shoot all the time and go, go, go. And it's such a creative cause I love editing. Yes,

Emily Peilan: yes. But also as a creator, you're like, oh, I like, I can't stay stagnant for too long. You want Yes. It's the next thing.

The next thing. It's the same for me as well. And I used to be a photographer and I still do a bit of photography, but I feel you, it's like always wanting to just shoot and then you've got a thousand you used up, you know, your memory card and then it just sits. And I'll get to it one day. I'll get to it one day

Ryan Tu: just, yeah.

And then it just sits here for so long that I keep on looking at it, but never really edited it, that it gets old in my head, if that makes sense. Yeah. So if I'm editing it and posting it, even though no one's seen it, I've seen it so many times that it's just you know, I guess that goes in with like perfectionism and it's like, I've lost that wow factor cuz I've looked at this footage so much, but never gotten posted.

Yeah.

Emily Peilan: Do you get emotional about your work because you shot it, you edited it, and then when you put it out to the world, you feel super I know, nervous or you just emotionally attached to the reception of your work?

Ryan Tu: Oh, that's a good question. What I used to do a lot is like whenever I would edit something, I would not post it for a week and just let me enjoy it for.

That makes sense. Yeah. And then post it and then kind of like detach to it, because then I would get like feedback and then it's like I'm not worried about what people think about it. It's like I had that time and space . To enjoy it for myself and enjoy that creation for myself. But then now it's like, if I'm constantly traveling and I need to edit something and I need to post it for a deliverable or something, then I'll just, I'll do it.

But then having done that and having that space with the work has really trained my brain to kind of like, once it's done. Cuz it's could be so easy to always just think of like, oh, this could have been better or this could have been better. Oh yeah. So having that week of just it's done.

I'm gonna let it sit. I'm gonna enjoy it for myself and then, and then post it or send else.

Emily Peilan: I love that you're such a conscious creator because I think to cultivate that kind of mindset, it takes some time, right? . Because it's so easy to be reactive to how people perceive it and to want good feedback.

And then when you get a bad feedback, you are so, yeah, you just become really reactive and as a creator, it's your work. I find for myself sometimes, it took me a while actually to get to that point where I'm like, okay, I'm sitting with it. I'm happy with it. When I put it out into the world, I know what I feel about it, and other people are free to think what they want about that.

Ryan Tu: .

But it's hard to, I think the biggest challenge for me is like posting it and being like, oh, I should have added like x, y, Z effects or this, and then regret the editing or just like nitpicking it after it's already been done. So that's something I'm trying to like, be better at.

It's like that whatever I created and it's already finished, it's like that's the best that it could have been in the moment. And so I'm gonna take that feedback that I'm getting from myself and applying it to my future work as opposed to being so hard. Yeah,

Emily Peilan: definitely. With your colabs when you were first starting out, how often would it be that you reached out and pitched to brands for, to get, the job versus at what point did that start shifting and then brands started coming to you?

Ryan Tu: Would this be for like, just cuz I used to freelance do like freelance videography and photography for two years before traveling. So I did like weddings, restaurants, dance studios, Okay. Students and things like that. In Ottawa where I'm from. Yeah. So I guess if we're speaking about that, I.

Would do a lot of like free shoots to start off just to build my portfolio and to collaborate with a model that I really wanna shoot with or a dancer or something. And then that would lead to paid work. So it's like you're creating what you wanna get paid for, if that makes sense.

It's like you're doing freed work to get paid for. Yes. Yeah. And also posting what you wanna get paid for. So it's I used to shoot weddings and it's like, if I wanna get wedding gigs, I should be posting, you know, my past wedding work or I'll do like, it's called this styled shoot where you're having like a fake couple shoot, like a fake wedding and that's building your portfolio.

 So that's a good

Emily Peilan: tip. Yeah. Yeah. Post yeah, post and share the work that you wanna get

Ryan Tu: paid for. Yeah, exactly. Because it's if I'm posting, let's say if I, if let's say my Instagram feed is a lot of me and I want to like, Get models to work with me and stuff, they can't see that work.

Right. So it's like, I need to be posting what kind of work I wanna be attracting. So, because people will

Emily Peilan: look at your and be like, cool, this is the type of work I can see he's done, and I wanna do that kind of work with him, and then therefore they'll reach out. But if they, yeah. Only see, I don't know, product shoots or something, they'll be like, , interesting.

Right. So that's, but

Ryan Tu: yeah, I think a lot of, like, everyone has their own ways of getting work. I think you can't just hear one person's way and be like, Hey, that's the way I'm gonna do it. Cause I just met someone who's a really successful filmmaker and he gets all of his work from word of mouth.

So he like barely posts on Instagram. It's all through just like networking, knowing people they really like his work and then that's how he gets his like, full-time gig kind of thing. Crazy for me, it's mostly been, networking as well, but like Instagram has been huge. I've been using that a lot to show what I can do.

And that's what I'm saying, like post. What you want to get paid for. Cuz that builds your skills, it builds your portfolio and then ultimately people will see that and then wanna work with you.

Emily Peilan: Yeah. Nice. So I discovered you, I think maybe last summer you were in Greece, right? With Yeah, Justine and Ruby on a shoot.

And I remember seeing those photos and I was like, wow, who's the photographer who took this? And then that thank you discovered you and following along and just all of your grease content and just everything. Like thereafter I was like blown away. And would you say like you really grew a lot in that phase as well?

Just honest,

Ryan Tu: definitely visibility. Yeah. I mean, I don't even know about like engagement wise or just. Skill-wise?

Emily Peilan: Yeah, do you feel like with inquiries, like via Instagram for example say having that work and also working for like the Los LeBlanc like channel and then posting a lot and having a lot of epic content to post did that help you grow your Instagram and then did that also help, get more colabs coming in?

Ryan Tu: Yeah, a hundred percent. I mean, I'm so grateful for the opportunity to have traveled to so many countries with learning so much and just like being on the ground of being a travel creator. I think Greece trips specifically was like the first international trip. Like I moved to Bali and then Greece was like one of the first international trips.

Yeah. And. When I first moved to Bali, I, we can talk about this later, like imposter syndrome, but I felt like I didn't belong here for the first couple of months cuz like everyone's so, it's so Instagramable, everyone's so in my head, like so talented. I was like, what am I doing here, kind of thing.

Oh, and then when I was in Greece it was like, I don't know, I felt like I let myself kinda like free a little bit more with my creativity and not put myself in a box. So I definitely grew a lot, like with my confidence within my work in that Europe trip. And yeah, that traveling especially to beautiful destinations and stuff definitely helps with getting collaborations and brands wanting to work.

Yeah,

Emily Peilan: so let's touch on that you know, imposter syndrome. Actually, let's go back to where you were before Bali and how you even Okay. To Bali, right? So what was life like? You were only 22. What was life like before Bali? And you said you grew up in Ottawa, so did you go to university there and did you learn videography there?

And yeah. What led you to

Ryan Tu: Bali? Okay, where do I start? I I was in high school and then even a couple of months before I was graduating and like figuring out where, which university go to, what I even wanna go into, I had no idea. And so I picked business because it was like, basically until like, I guess the pandemic is when I started videography photography, kind of just like follow.

The rules, the path that like, I guess society wants you to follow, like go to university, kind of get a corporate job, do that nine to five type thing. So I was like, Hey, business is like a super big umbrella. There's so many options and like different doors you can take within that. So I chose a marketing degree in Ottawa where I grew up.

So, the university was in my hometown. And then it wasn't until the pandemic that I really started to get into videography photography, just because I was doing like like an in like a online internship. Internship, it's called like co-op. So that was remote and I mean, everyone was like in isolation.

And I've always been really into Just like videography, but I didn't really, I didn't think that, you know, you can make money from it or anything, which is why I chose a business degree. So I would do travel videos for fun when I worked with my family and stuff, but just literally as a hobby.

And then in 2020 was when I was like, Hey, let's use this time to kind of just take photos, videos. I'd do like self-portraits and stuff. I would shoot with my sister. And so that led me to working with a video production agency called Studio 79 E. So this guy named Brian, who's like basically my mentor, he taught me like everything about, you know, video editing that's, I used to edit iMovie before, like I got hired by this agency with my work in iMovie.

And I'm literally so grateful cause I didn't think I was gonna actually go down that path. And so I literally saw an Instagram story about a job opening cuz they needed more, you know, work. Because everything was being virtual. And so I sent him like my stuff, my movie, and he was like, Hey, I think you have some potential.

So I basically worked with him in the agency and then he taught me so much. I'm so grateful for that cuz it's kind of like someone's like planting a seed for you. It's like, Hey, I see something in you when you don't even see it in yourself. And then I, you know, from there I worked with the agency we worked with like different, you know, local businesses and things like that.

And then that led me to kind of doing freelance videography, photography, shooting weddings, restaurants all that, like basically like a bunch of different niches. Cause I was like, I don't really know what I'm doing. I'm just gonna try all of it and then see what I like and then do what makes me feel most fulfilled.

And then, so I was still in university while working with the agency, doing the freelance, shooting the weddings and ev all of that. And I wanted to. Keep doing my university stuff, just like to finish it and have it as like a backup I guess. While still continuing my freelance. And then it got to a point where I, like my freelance business was basically like a full-time job at that point.

Like I was working with people. Like every day I was like swamped with editing stuff and so I was like, I decided to quit my university. Cause I was like, honestly, you don't need a degree to get into this type of work. Especially like a business degree. If I wanna get into like videography, photography and yeah, I mean we, I mean the school system's a whole different like topic don't

Emily Peilan: even get me started on it.

Yes. Honestly, I feel like you study bus, a lot of people are like, oh business must be easy for you cuz you studied commerce or something. And I'm like, no, I learned jack shit. I have to learn everything on my own.

Ryan Tu: Right. It's so outdated. It's like I, I wanted to in marketing and they were teaching me about like newspapers and like billboards and stuff.

And I mean, it's 2020, it's like social media is like the biggest way to market, like influencer marketing, all that. But they would barely teach that. And I knew it was like, what? Like pointless. Yeah. So I decided to quit drop outta university and like my parents were so supportive of that.

And through I mean, when I was freelancing and stuff, like I'm constantly reaching out to brands. I'm like shooting my shot and applying. And somewhere in there I applied to Lan, who's a travel YouTuber, who I've been looking up to. And literally a couple weeks after I dropped outta university, I got this opportunity to be his like, personal videographer, photographer and moved to Bali and work with him.

So, That's pretty much how I got to Bali. Everything worked out like kind of perfectly. Like the fact that I quit like I dropped on university and then I got that and I was so scared to drop out. That was like in my gut feeling that I was like the right thing to do. And then, I don't know, I feel like opportunities just align amazing when you're really feeling your passion.

Oh, I

Emily Peilan: love that because it is so hard to do, to just do what's different, right? Everyone's going to university and you're like, why do I not want to go to university? Like, why do I wanna drop out? And for me it was like quitting my full-time. I got offered full-time tax consulting job with I don't know, really good salary, like 14

a or something, right? And I was like, am I stupid? To let this go for a one-way ticket to Europe and basically do nothing but backpack and have a really good time and enjoy my life. Right? Yeah. And, but I like to this day was, that was like, you come to life at Crossroads and I feel like that was a crossroad for you.

It's either keep going to university or you dropped out and because you dropped out, I think that opportunity just aligned and you saw it and you went for it. And otherwise maybe it would never have happened. Maybe you wouldn't even be here. Could you imagine? It's true.

Ryan Tu: Could be. I know it's crazy

Emily Peilan: if you chose fair over what could be instead of

Ryan Tu: trusting a hundred percent.

I think I did take a little bit of a safe route and waited until my freelance business became like a full-time thing and I was like, I can't be sitting in a lecture doing this assignment when I have Opportunities and gigs and clients, right? I wouldn't say no to an opportunity to be in a lecture, right?

So I kind of waited until my freelance business became like a legit thing and then quit. But I know so many people that just are in university and they're like, Hey, no, this isn't for me. They quit and then they like start their other thing and it's so inspiring how those people are so brave to do that and they just take that like risk.

Yeah. And then they just, they really just trust themselves that much. So, oh, that's, I think, yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because I mean, even in Bali, like there's so many people that just quit there nine to five or drop at a university and they're like, Hey, I'm gonna travel Southeast Asia and just see where it goes.

Whereas I feel like I took a little bit more of a safe route and did both of them at the same time to have that like backup plan kind of that's cool. Until it was like an easy decision to be like, it doesn't make sense for me to be in a lecture. When I could be, you know, shooting a wedding right now or whatever it was.

Emily Peilan: Yeah. I mean, honestly, if I could go back and do it again, I would do it the way you did it because it was quite stressful to just give it all up and be like, oh, I don't know what I'm doing with my life. I'm just winging it. And then you've got, it's a big leap. It's a big leap. And it's financial pressure.

You don't know if you can pay rent in two months time and you just have to make ends meet. And I felt like I was constantly just like stressing out about it. If I could go back in time, I would tell myself to set up and have my bases covered and then take that leap. But, you know,

Ryan Tu: H two, but you're also where you're at now with that story and past.

Right. So it worked out in the end. So worked out in the end. Yeah.

Emily Peilan: Had to, I was not gonna go back. It was not an option to go back. So yeah. This is working. No

Ryan Tu: plan. Yeah. Yeah, not available. Like I'm so inspired by people that just know that they're not like, Hey, this isn't for me. And so they just leave and then open the door to things that are for them and what they want.

You know, where I was like, still in school. Cause I was like, fuck, I still need to, I don't know, I was still, so, I was like literally so close to finishing the degree too, so I was like, let's just finish it just to have, and like my parents were paying for my university and stuff, so like wanna do it for them.

But then it just got to a point where it was like such an easy decision to drop out because of just the amount of opportunities that were coming. And I was like it literally doesn't make sense for me to stay. So, but a lot

Emily Peilan: of people do stay in and it's also the same with like relationships, the same with jobs, same with so many things.

It's like the sunk cost fallacy of like, oh, I've already invested X amount of years, or X amount of time and energy and whatnot. I may as well just keep doing this, keep being miserable, keep, you know, yeah. Liking this thing that I'm doing because I've spent so much time doing, it's like, Well, what if

Ryan Tu: Right?

You could. And it's like safer. It's like having that degree could be like a backup plan. But then I was like, I don't know. When you really want something, there's no backup plan. It's like you're going for it. And like even with the pandemic with the amount of like people getting laid off with their jobs and stuff.

Like what even is like a safety? What is safety? What you even is safety. Exactly. You know? Exactly. I don't know. I think working for yourself in a way is the safest thing cuz like you're building something that you own. Yes. I,

Emily Peilan: and it's like I, yeah, definitely. Because you could be fired at any point when you work for yourself.

You can fire yourself if you want to, but it's sort of on you. Right? And I think that with all the knowledge and the skills that you gain with being a freelancer, running your own business, you know how to make money. You know how to find money and sell and create more of it, right? Whereas if you .

Have only ever had a job and had people tell you what to do, you don't know how to go out there and catch your own fish,

Ryan Tu: right? . And I feel like even if whatever, you know, business endeavor, you choose to go down, even if that doesn't work, like you acquired so many skills that you know how to do those things, that you can adapt and do something else, or you can, you know, you can pivot as opposed to you know, getting laid off and you're just like, know what?

Yeah. Yeah.

Emily Peilan: What were some of the biggest lessons that you learned? Just freelancing.

Ryan Tu: I think

just knowing that there's like an abundance of opportunities up there, especially in the creative field. Like I think it's so easy and I feel like people say this all the time, like, oh, it's so saturated, there's so many people doing it already. There's no space for me kind of thing. And I feel like there is like the social media industry, this kind of, you know, work is getting bigger each day and there's more and more opportunities and I'm seeing that.

So just that's like the main lesson for me because I didn't wanna start videography photography cuz I thought there's so many people already doing that. And like how am I gonna be able to be get to that point? You know what I mean? If there's already so many people. Yeah. But then I realized like each person has their own like unique.

Thing that they bring to the table. And with the industry growing bigger and bigger, there's room for everyone kind of thing. So that's one of the biggest lessons.

Emily Peilan: That's a really good lesson actually, I'd say. Yeah. Yeah. Because as creators, especially when you start your doubting your own skills and you're like, oh, who would want to work with me?

Or you know, how can I get in here in this industry? Because there's so many amazing people that other people would probably want to work with. And then that kind of just spirals into this imposter syndrome of oh, like who? Like who am I? And then because you think that way, you don't reach out to people.

Right. But there is, yeah, there are clients everywhere. There's money everywhere else. It's just everywhere. Opportunities. But you are not letting yourself receive that or go out

Ryan Tu: after. Yeah. Yeah. And I also think if you're in the mindset of there's so many people already getting the opportunities that I want, and you're like, Envy, envy of them.

Another lesson is like turning that envy into like inspiration. So it's like instead of, oh, I want that opportunity that they're getting. It's like, you're inspired by that and you're gonna get something because there is an abundance of opportunities. And you know, there's again, I said there's room for everyone and it's like, if

Emily Peilan: they can do it, why not me?

Why can't I do it? Exactly.

Ryan Tu: Why? Yeah. Yeah. Because that's like literally the reason I didn't wanna pursue videography photography when I was graduating high school. Cause I was like, there's already so many people doing it. There's already so many travel creators, there's already so many, you know? Yeah.

How could I enter this space? How is there room for me? . Yeah.

Emily Peilan: So good. Yeah. For anyone who's listening, they're like, oh, you know, because I get, this is like the biggest like thing that I get from people. It's like, oh, there's so many web designers out there. There's so many designers, there's so many X, Y, Z.

And I'm like, yes. And right. There's room for you too. There's, it's true so many people to evolve and yeah, I think as a creative, that's one of the hardest mindset blocks to, to get past as well. . Going back to Bali and just your year in general, I think you've had a super adventurous, crazy year of like travel and content creating.

What was 2022 like for you and what was it like, and I'm sure so many people are like, so curious. What was it like to work for one of the biggest like travel influencers out there? Lu Lan at Christian and Ruby. What was that? Yeah,

Ryan Tu: paint us a picture. It was so amazing. I am so grateful for the opportunity.

I mean, I've looked up to him for so long and being like seeing hands on how hard he works and seeing how he got to where he is was super inspiring. I mean, we traveled to Eight to 10 countries together and we like traveled so much and yeah. It's been such a crazy ride and Yeah.

Right. I've learned so much from it.

Emily Peilan: Yeah. What were, and what would you say were your favorite trips? Well, what was one of your favorite trips that you did last

year?

Ryan Tu: I think, like we've mentioned, Greece was really special. Thailand was also really special cause we packed and, I mean, he started his content creation journey in Thailand, so it was like a really full circle moment for the team.

But yeah, it was so much fun. I mean, I'm basically like, I can add like professional third wheel now to my resume cuz a lot of the times it would just be me, Christian, Ruby, and yeah, it would just be us three and it was

Emily Peilan: awesome. I love it. Love it. So good. And so now you are back freelancing on your own.

What does the next year look like or what is like your vision for your business and for yourself and your

Ryan Tu: videography? I think, I mean, I've always approached my creative journey like this, like just following what makes me happiest is a lot of the times I don't really know exactly where I'm going.

And I feel like this is to a lot of people. There's so many different doors you can take and it's like overwhelming. Yeah. It's like you're blind to what's gonna happen. Yeah. So what I try to tell myself is Do what makes you happy? Follow your passion and like you're gonna attract those things that will help you keep doing what you love.

So right now I'm trying to like, I really want to get into like underwater shooting and shoot like an underwater film this year. Of that do more like short films and stuff like that. So, I mean, I'm not exactly sure what type of work that might look working with a tourism board or like a specific brand that's like hiring me to go somewhere to shoot for them.

But yeah, I think just kind of I'm still continuing to explore what makes me happiest and what makes me most creatively fulfilled. So yeah, I guess that's what I'm trying to do this year.

Emily Peilan: Curious question that just came up as a creator, I personally found it quite hard to balance paid work and passion work, right?

Because passion work doesn't get paid necessarily. . It builds your skillsets and it builds Yeah, builds a skill set and also just like your own personal brand, but then paid work is what actually gets you paid. So for you as a freelancer, like how do you balance the two?

Ryan Tu: . I think so when I was freelancing in Ottawa, I would get stuck sometimes cuz I would get too much client work and I wouldn't have time to do like passion projects.

But I realize like passion, like if you're a freelancer, if you're a crater, like the passion projects is what will, this is what happened, like for me, like my story, but the passion projects is what will catch the attention I of the brands and the paid work. So it's like when you're working on the passion projects, it's like an investment in your time to show what you are really capable of and something that you're super proud of so that the brands are like, Hey, I want to, I want you to apply that creativity to my brand or to whatever.

Yeah. They're hiring you for so. Great. Yeah. Like my goal would love to have a 50 50 type thing where it's 50% of the time I'm working on things that I'm really passionate about and gets me really fired up and creatively fulfilled. And then that's like almost the marketing funnel to be able to attract those clients that would get the paid gigs.

Emily Peilan: That is actually so brilliant. Yeah, absolutely. And as a freelancer, because when you are working full-time for somebody say sort of like em employment, you always have constant work coming in and you can be rest assured that you will get paid and that, you know, you, you've got work, right.

But then as a freelancer it's quite a lot harder cause you have to remember to go out there and get work or yeah, just find that balance as well for yourself. And it's quite . In that sense. Right. That's what's been one of the hardest challenges for me. Would you say do you struggle with that as a freelancer and like what are some of the other challenges like being a freelancer versus being employed and working?

Ryan Tu: Yeah. I feel like if you're self-employed, it could be so easy, especially if you're like doing something that you're really passionate about and you love, it could be so easy to work like overwork yourself and just, it's like you're just constantly working cuz you love it so much, but then it's like you also need balance and you need to give your time to rest and recharge.

To be able to create and create good content. And I think that's the hardest thing as like a, if you're self-employed, it's like you're always thinking about work. Cuz it's like, I guess that could be like a scarcity mindset. If you're not working hard enough, you're not gonna be able to achieve like whatever you want to achieve.

. But kind of just like taking like baby steps as opposed feeling you have to do everything at once and you know Yeah. Feeling overwhelmed by the amount of stuff that you're giving yourself to do. Yeah, definitely. Do you

Emily Peilan: relate with that? I do. And I think, I would say this has more to do with the imposter syndrome and feeling not quite fully deserving of say you know, client paying you X amount of money.

You'll feel like you have to do like above and beyond and burn yourself out on something in order to like, feel deserving of that. I totally, and I felt that a lot at the start, and I'm getting to a point where I know my worth and, you know, just the value of my work and my thinking and . I'm more peace with that now.

But definitely at the start I was like, I will, like just every waking moment would be working because I felt like I had to deserve.

Ryan Tu: Yes, totally.

Emily Peilan: Like traveling and enjoying myself and having a good time. Suddenly I wasn't deserving.

Ryan Tu: . Or like feeling guilty if you're like resting. Cuz it's like I need to be constantly working.

And something that I've heard before, it's if you're experiencing like self-doubt or imposter syndrome to outwork your self-doubt. So it's like you work so hard that it like, ooh, proves that you don't need to doubt yourself. Yeah. But then that also could be like a little bit toxic cuz then it's like you're constantly feeling undeserving of what you have.

So you're always working to beat that self-doubt. Interesting. But then it could, you know, that could definitely lead to burnout if you're not giving yourself time to rest and recharge. I've been there.

I outwork like, I think it's such a good, I think it's such a good Like such a good I guess tip or like lesson to kind of outwork your thing, like outwork your self-doubt, but then that could literally like fire back at you.

Yeah, definitely. I

Emily Peilan: think where outwork your self-doubt came from is you know, if you're like, oh, I'm not sure if I'm a good editor or if I'm a good videographer, well then the more you do it, the more you have proof that actually you are good at it and that the more people pay you, the more follows you get or the more you know collab you get, that's like you have evidence to prove your brain .

Wrong that you are not good at it. Exactly. You've got evidence that you are. And I think what take it too far is that like they take it to the next level and they're just like hustle, hustle, hustle, and they forget to rest. And like rest is such a huge part of creativity because honestly I've been there burning out.

You have nothing left on your tank. You have no creative. . And everything suffers. Like deals stop coming in. Like just everything comes to a halt

Ryan Tu: and you're just like, it's the worst feeling. Yeah.

Emily Peilan: Have you been there yourself?

Ryan Tu: I haven't reached like actual burnout, but I've definitely reached points where I felt like my business was running me and I wasn't running my business.

Ooh. Does that make sense? Or like when I was freelancing in Ottawa, I would get like so many opportunities. I wanted to say yes to everything. Yes. But then it felt like I couldn't handle it cuz it was just too much. And then it felt it literally felt like the business was running me. I wasn't in control anymore and I couldn't give myself time to rest.

So it was kind of like saying no to things and giving yourself time to rest so that you're like recharge. You can give it your all for the stuff that you're saying yes to. Yeah. Cuz I think rest is such an important. Part in the creative process in, and also growing as well. Also reconnecting

Emily Peilan: to your why.

I think it can be so easy to do, do, do and then forget why you're doing it in the first place and then you're like, oh, I did this so I could travel and have a life and actually spend extra time with friends and then suddenly I'm working fucking 10, 12 hour days and I choose to. And I was like, oh, .

Did I like, you know, why did I do this in the first place? And that was the point, you know, I think it was 2020, the start of 2022 and I was like, I'm actually not happy with my current work-life balance. I just felt like I was always working. I didn't have a life outside of it. And so 2022 was my year and my word was adventure and I just wanted to feel adventure again.

That was the whole reason why I started freelancing. And. I made that year prioritizing, just having fun living again and alongside my work didn't suffer. It actually grew and I was able to be more creative. That's amazing, right? . After a verbal love period, but because I gave myself that time, like coming into 2023, I feel so recharged, so ready.

That's so good. Take on the year. And I think for a lot of people, they struggle to give themselves that, like what they need. And also just yeah, reconnecting to your why, why you're doing it in the first. .

Ryan Tu: Yeah. People say you are like your worst boss kind of thing, cuz you're your boss, but then also like the employee.

Yeah. And so you're always like, your boss mind is like, Hey, you need to work and you do this, but then it's like, you also need to listen to your body and like what you. You need rest and you need to, you know. Yeah.

Emily Peilan: What's been the most rewarding thing for you? So far being able to, cause I, something this came to mind because I saw you'd been traveling with your parents recently.

Yes. That must be so like, just the most incredible thing to

Ryan Tu: do. 100, 100%. It was the best feeling ever. They, they haven't traveled since the pandemic, so it's been like, what, like two, three years or something? So I've been living in Bali for like almost a year and then they took their vacation time to come to Bali and visit me.

And it was really the best feeling ever. A little of a backstory to those that don't know me. So my parents were born in Vietnam and they were like boat people. So 40 years ago they, they escaped to find freedom cuz of the war. And they found themselves in a refugee camp in Indonesia where I'm currently living.

So they lived in these like little huts and basically just waiting for some country to like, to bring them in and luckily Canada sponsor them. So then they moved to Canada. So I was born and raised in Canada. I've never lived outside of my hometown or anything. And then in 20 20, 21, 20 21 is when I moved to Bali and really dove into like travel content creation.

And so it was so nice to have them like come and visit Bali in a totally different way than they experienced Indonesia before, obviously. Yeah, it was so special. I brought them to like my favorite restaurants, my favorite, like cafes to work at. I brought them to like this, like a hotel collaboration that I had and it was so, so special.

I surprised them and they were like so shocked. It was so cool.

Emily Peilan: That is just incredible. I can't

Ryan Tu: even . And it was just a reminder too. Not everyone's parents like support what they do, especially if they're going against, you know, what most people do. Yeah. Like my parents have been so supportive since I started my creative, you know, journey and following my passion and stuff.

They've always been incredibly supportive and that's made me realize not everyone has that. So it made it so much more special that we get to experience it together. Yeah.

Emily Peilan: Oh, I love that. So for me I think my parents took a couple years to come around. We're like, what are you doing? Like hippie van lifeing around the world, like backpacking and all that.

Yeah. It took a while. But now you know, they're my biggest supporters and. So amazing to have your parents and your family on the same side, right?

Ryan Tu: . And it's like a big motor motivator for me to keep working so I can have more of these experiences with them and travel around and have those memories.

So yeah. Able to

Emily Peilan: give back to your parents

Ryan Tu: instead of just For sure. Yeah. And it's so hard too, like living I mean, Bali is like literally half away, half around the world from Canada, so it's like hard to even catch up sometimes cuz it's bald hour difference. And so yeah, it's super nice for them to come and spend that time together.

Love

Emily Peilan: that. And how do you feel about Bali now? Because I know you said earlier when you first got there, you felt like, oh, I don't really belong here. How's that shifted for you?

Ryan Tu: I love Bali. I could, I literally consider this place my home now. It's like there's so much to do. There's so much creativity here.

There's so many like talented and creative minds to collaborate with and get inspired by each other. Cuz like even in AU some, I'm from Ottawa, which is like the capital of Canada. And like a lot of people work in the government and it's very like corporate. There's not that big of a creative community.

But in Bali there's so many creatives here and it's so refreshing to feel like you're not like the odd one out. Like you feel like that my, I'm at like a cafe, like editing together with my friends and yeah, it's, it feels so, so nice.

Emily Peilan: I love that. That's how I feel about Lisbon actually.

Lisbon's full of digital nomads and po maybe more on the business side of things like entrepreneurs and founders and businesses side of things, but also like loads of creatives. And when I'm there I just feel so at home. And there's so many expats and I've always struggled to feel like I belong.

Uh . You know, I grew up in New Zealand, but I also, I don't know, I just. Didn't feel like I belonged. And then I lived in Germany Yeah. For a really long time. Also just didn't feel like I belonged and lisbon's the first place where I'm like, wow these are my people. I feel like this is like .

A wolf pack. And with Bali, I have so many friends who have been in Bali and they said to me, Emily, you're gonna love Bali. I've never been to Bali. You

Ryan Tu: love Bali, you should definitely come.

Emily Peilan: And I'll tell you the reason why so resistant to come to Bali is like, it's a touristic, and B, there's just there's so many people going to Bali and it feels like it's just this influencer thing and I'm, oh, I don't know if I like, fit into that, you know?

Yes. Cause of well, these maybe how you felt when you first went to Bali. Right, exactly. Exactly. So that's what I'm feeling. Yeah. Can you speak a little bit on that? It's like, is that just in my head? It's not really like that, or Yeah. What is the.

Ryan Tu: A lot of the places that you'll see on Instagram are very touristy.

There's one specific rice field that everyone goes to, like these waterfalls, but like Bali is so big, there's so many hidden gems to explore. And I feel like if you already have that mindset of I don't wanna go to the touristy, kind of like Instagramable places. There's so many different things that you can do and explorer that are like in an adventure around and stuff.

So don't just think it's just all influencer. I mean, there's a lot of content creators here and I mean, some places it's like you go to a waterfall and there's like a lineup of people like waiting to take a photo in front of the waterfall, for example. And that can get a little bit annoying.

But there are so many like hidden waterfalls if you can find 'em. Yeah.

Emily Peilan: What about traffic? So I had a friend recently, she went to violence. She was like, the traffic is insane. So like traffic is one thing and another. I was like, oh, I don't know if I wanna go to a place and just have mostly expats.

So I love also the local culture. Right. So, . In your mind on, in your experience, what's that ratio like between like local people and expats, and then also traffic? .

Ryan Tu: How do you get . So I'm currently living in Chan Chango, which is like the place where most expats, digital nomads live.

They're just like a lot of coffee shops. It's great for like nightlife and that type of thing. But if you go outside of Cheng, Uluwatu and like maybe Ubud, it's like super, super quiet and there's just like pretty much locals, like some places the locals don't even speak English, and you have to kind of have to Translate with your phone or kind of just like nod and stuff.

So it's super cool. Like you can literally take an hour or two scooter ride out and you'll feel like you're in the real Bali. Like you're there with the locals so nice. It's just like this hub and the traffic is really crazy. It's like in extremely hectic, but I like the hectic, like I'm living in like the center of it all.

Yeah. But it's super nice to get away and just go to somewhere a bit more quiet and cool. The real Bali. Okay. I feel like all the coffee shops and like aesthetics and stuff is very like expats and like westernized. Yeah. Yeah. But even if we take an hour to two scooter riding, you can legit.

Bryce Fields and it

Emily Peilan: all, I'm definitely feeling pulled to come back to Bali cause I've got some friends who live in Bali and I'm like, oh, I'm feeling called to spend some time there and I think I will. So definitely hit you off if you are still around. What is Yes. The living situation like there, because there's so many expats, right?

I'm just curious is like finding accommodation, long-term accommodation, like super super hard, super expensive. Are you renting long-term or do you just pop

Ryan Tu: around? My place is monthly in most places, if you like. It's not hard to find monthly accommodation. Like it's called a guest house here in Shangu.

But if you go outside of like Shangu, which is that little hub there's so many different like Airbnbs and villas that you can stay at. Yeah, I mean, the pricing has gone up a lot since Bali has opened up in post pandemic. So it isn't as like cheap and affordable for Western like people in westernized countries to, to come.

But it like comparing to Canada, like my rent is still like a third of what I would be paying for in, in Canada. So it's still relatively affordable compared to Canada. If you can find a way to, to work remotely I would highly work on my day. It's such a beautiful place. Nice.

Emily Peilan: Cool. Yeah, I think it's definitely come, definitely gonna check it out.

I I must I think there's so

Ryan Tu: much to do. There's like volcanoes, there's rice fields, there's like beautiful beaches. You can snorkel, you can dive. There's so many different like scenes and if you even drive like across the island or something it seems like a different place.

Emily Peilan: I love that.

Okay. Definitely. I think October, November, I might find myself there. Cool.

Ryan Tu: Yes, yes. Oh, I plan to be based in Bali, so hopefully I'll still be here when you're there and we can definitely cup. I would love to. Oh my

Emily Peilan: gosh. Would love that. Love, love, love. So good. Okay. And one of my really curious questions is for those people who are looking to be a content creator or are already doing it on the side, but they're like, this is something holding them back from going all in.

They want this . Kind of freedom lifestyle that, so you have being embodied doing this, doing trips but they're just like kind of afraid to go all in. What would you say to people,

Ryan Tu: are these people already like doing it as a hobby? Are they doing it as like a side gate? They're getting.

Getting clients, but not like doing it full-time yet. I guess it depends on the situation. Yeah. Like where you're at in your journey.

Emily Peilan: Let's say they are in a job that they don't like, like a nine to five. Like a nine to five. They have the skill, which is, say it, it could be photography, it could be videography, it could be something else, it could be development or you know, something.

And they're just scared to take the leap. Whether or not they have something secured like you did. Or even if it's just to leap without the problems or anything. Right. Like what, yeah. What would you say what helped you to make that leap? Apart from just having freelance job on the side?

Like from a mindset perspective?

Ryan Tu: Yeah. I think let's say you wanted to travel, like be, let's say you're in a nine to five. You're freelancing, you're doing some like portrait sessions and whatever, but you really wanna do it full-time and you want to specifically travel. I feel like you need to, like I said before with like post what you wanna attract, you need to like, you need to travel to be able to attract, that kind of thing.

It's like the law of attraction basically. It's like you need to do it first and act as if you already had it and then you know, those things will come. Yeah. And yeah, I feel like, I mean for me, I had like I said before, I had that nine to five and then, or like nine to five slash still in university and then waited until my freelance was big enough and then it was an easy decision to move over.

But I mean, like anything is possible if you really put your mind to it and you believe that it's possible. So it's like, I think the biggest. Thing you have to overcome is that self-doubt? Cause it's like you're scared to leave that nine to five cuz you're doubting is it gonna work? Can I actually do this?

Right? Yeah. So it's like really truly believing that if you put your mind to it, it can happen. And if you have that my right mindset and actually take action of like acting as if you have what you want ready, that's, I'd say is like the recipe to getting what you want. Because

Emily Peilan: oftentimes, like in my opinion, it's not it's not a lack of skill set, right?

It's a mindset lack totally, I would say 80% mindset, 20% skillset, possibly muscle mentals. And another thing that helped me was surrounding myself with people who were already where I wanted to be. And when I talk to them, they're kind of like, ah, they talk to me as if I'm already doing the thing.

Like they believe in me. They Yes. Like, why can't you do this? Right. Whereas a lot of people, if you surround yourself with like other nine to five people or you know from your Yeah, just university, they'll be like, ah, why would you do that? You know? . They come from a fair, scarcity mindset, and so you wanna really be conscious in choosing what kind of people, what kind of energy you wanna surround yourself with, and what kind of beliefs that totally these people have as well, because you passively subconsciously absorb in the beliefs and the energy from the people around you.

Ryan Tu: Totally. I feel like the community that you surround yourself with and the people you surround yourself with, is a huge thing. I remember when you said you know, I guess networking with people that like you aspire to be. Like, I remember I was at this like music video shoot with my mentor Brian, who worked at the who I worked at the video production agency.

And I was there at the music video shoot and I was like looking around like, I don't belong here. I just felt so much imposter syndrome and he looked at me and he was like, you belong here. And those type of, like, when you surround yourself with that type of like inspiration and energy, like you're saying, it really builds your confidence and really going for what you wanna do.

Emily Peilan: And oftentimes it's like, before we believe in ourselves, we actually borrow the beliefs from other people. And we try it on. And then at some point you're like, oh, cool. I'm feeling into this. I, you know, cool. And I do think that, yeah, that's happened to me on quite a few occasions, especially when I first started out with one of my first business mentors, I remember I told her I, I wanted to just make like 50 k.

I was like, just 50 K. I'd be like, super happy with this year. And she was like, I think you could do a hundred. And I was like, no. There's no way. And she looked at me. . So seriously. And she's like, I believe you can do it. And it was the first time anyone ha ever said that to me, like . And I just borrowed that belief.

I, I borrowed it even before I believed it myself. And in the next two months I made 20 k. And then the next year I

Ryan Tu: made, it's the craziest feeling. It was like someone else believes in you more than you believe in yourself. And it's like, I'm so grateful for people like that, so

Emily Peilan: grateful. You need more people like that.

In our lives. Ah, totally. So good. Last question, which I just love to round off and ask all my guests, it's what does it mean for you or look like for you to live a free, wild and soulful

Ryan Tu: life? Ooh, free, wild and soulful life. I mean, I started I really wanted to get into videography, photography to feel like creatively fulfilled.

And when I feel creatively fulfilled, I feel like super free and like myself. I feel like whenever I'm creating a video or photo, it's like an extension of me and I'm Creating, like, I just feel so like alive and free when I create something I'm passionate about. So I think creativity definitely aligns with that.

. And just like lifestyle wise, like being able to do what you want, when you want, where you want. Definitely that's what those words mean to me. Just having the freedom to, to live through life on your own terms. I'm actually getting, I want to get like a bird tattoo here, just representing like freedom and searching what freedom even means.

I feel like it's an ongoing process. So yeah, that's definitely, freedom resonates with me so

Emily Peilan: much. Freedom is such an important value for me. Freedom, adventure, connection, those are my top three. And I just, everything I do in life is an alignment with that. And I think yeah. I love that.

Yeah. I just think also the world would be such a more beautiful place if we had more people who lived in that alignment with their values or just were more free, felt more wild and just yeah. More soulfully aligned with . What they want to create and how they wanna live.

Ryan Tu: I love that so much, and I really like, I have a podcast kind of based on that and spreading that positivity.

It's super

Emily Peilan: inspiring. Thank you so much for being on this podcast and sharing your story. I just, I love. Sharing other people's stories, connecting. And I love how much of a conscious creator you are and you're so tapped in. And thank you. Been a pleasure talking

Ryan Tu: to you. Thank you. I had so much fun.

This was so much fun.

Emily Peilan: I hope you enjoyed that episode. It was so fun to talk to Ryan and just to be able to share such an inspiring story with you all. I would love to hear what your biggest takeaways were or what parts of his story you resonated with the most. And I have linked in Ryan's Instagram and his TikTok in the show

And if you do share it on social media, I would love for you to tag me at Emily Peilan. Also linked in the show notes, just so I know who's been listening and so I can give you a little shout out as well and to say thank you for listening and for sharing. So I hope you have a beautiful day, my love, and I'll see you in the next episode…

Arohanui and Ciao x

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