#3 Cruise ship life to starting a Personal Training business (with Tobias Haunstetter)
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Ever wondered what it's like to live and work on a Cruise Ship travelling around the world?
In this episode, Tobi shares his experience of life on board and the lessons he learnt. We also talk about how he transitioned into the world of Personal Training, his mission behind Live in Motion and what it's like to shift from being employed to starting his own business.
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Episode Transcript
Emily: So on today's podcast episode, we've got Tobias Haunstetter. Tobi is a certified personal trainer based in mines in Germany. And he's been accompanying people to their fitness goals for about eight years now. In addition to creating fitness and nutrition plans, he also helps patients, clients seeking physiotherapy to get fit again, since 2021, he's also been working as a mentor for fitness trainers.
He also used to work on a cruise ship which is a really fun story. We dive into it a little bit in our podcast episode. and he used to kind of travel and and also offer fitness advice to, to the guests on board. So today's podcast episode is definitely a fun one, and I can't wait to dive into the episode with you.
Okay. Well, Tobi, thank you so much for joining me on this podcast. Super excited to dive in and talk a little bit more about how you as a personal trainer able to live and work abroad. I know you've got some really exciting plans ahead, and I know you've got like a, a, a big backstory that kind of led you to where you are now.
So let's I'm curious to get started and ask you what. Does life look like for you right now? And what are Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Tobias: Yes. Hello, Emily. Thanks for having me here. And that's a very interesting question for the beginning actually. Yeah. My life right now is very so I like my life after stage.
So on the one hand I'm employed as a sport teacher in like a school. . and also employed in physical therapist who for 20 hours a week. And there is another of my life. Where I'm self-employed, where I build a company called Live in Motion.
. . And yeah, there I'm trying to build an environment for people that they can reach their fitness goals get into a healthier routine, healthy lifestyle. And yeah, that's pretty much what I'm doing now.
Emily: And so live in motion, is that something that's like, it's, it's based in Germany right at the moment.
Yeah.
Tobias: Right. Yeah. It's based in Germany. Right now. I'm offering like classes, I'm offering consultations and general about hub. I'm also doing retreats. . in the future. So, that's what we are doing, but yeah, exactly.
Emily: German clients. So at the moment, would you say your life is mostly based in Germany, but you're kind of like slowly branching out and kind of standing projects so you can work and live in different parts of the world?
Tobias: Exactly. Exactly. So, , just always curious about new things. . , you know, and in the past I was traveling a lot, I was also traveling and working a lot . . So, that made me to the decision, okay, I'll, I'm not, I don't want to stuck here. I just want move on and see different things, make things different.
Lee, then the others do now, right now. So that I can optimize my, my plan and everything, how I'm going to work.
Emily: Yeah. Cause I know you, you Told me that you used to work on a cruise ship. . , was that also as a personal trainer already? And then what kind of made you decide to leave that cruise ship lifestyle where you got to travel as a personal trainer to now doing what you're doing?
Tobias: Yeah, so, I was working as a personal trainer on a cruise ship, and that was, For me, for the beginning, like an amazing experience because I discovered a lot during that time. For example, language people, different manager and different system of a company. I, I would say, and I was already working a lot.
Yeah. For example, I was working 70 hours a week. Wow. Which was so much, but actually on crucial there was. Much to do. Yeah. Going out at the board. But yeah, that really affects me in a positive way. Yeah. And my work I'm doing right now. Yeah. And I was given classes, I was given personal training and I was also a salesman on board.
Emily: So, built up your confidence, huh? Exactly. Yeah.
Tobias: And which is also very important, so, The reason why I quit there was I didn't believe that much in the products. I sold
Emily: in the process, in the product. Oh, in the products that you sold, so,
Tobias: yeah. Yeah. In the product I sold. . . So that's why I said to myself, okay, I want to stop it.
And also the kind of life. Side. It was super interesting because you were just in different cities all the time in different places, but the ship life is something really different. You know? I mean, I think you cannot do it for long term, right? I mean, I always can imagine going back for a certain amount of time.
. , but it's not something for. Because you don't have, currently,
Emily: because you don't have a base, you felt quite like disjointed maybe. Okay. I
Tobias: mean, you, you see so many different places. You meet so many different people from different nationalities and you learn really a lot. It felt like almost five years, but I've spent only six months on the cruise, so, it felt so long.
Yeah. And I learned so much. Amazing. But I think the mix, the balances, suppose
Emily: Yeah. Yeah. So, so before that, You studied then. personal training or, or how did you kind of get into the spare of personal training? Yeah,
Tobias: so, at the beginning, first of all, I finished school, then I moved to Australia for work holiday.
Emily: Oh, that's right. . Yeah. Good. What did you do in Australia
Tobias: again? So, I was, In Melbourne and I was a housekeeper in in horses or cleaning toilets all the time. ,
Emily: we've gotta stop somewhere. .
Tobias: Yeah. But yeah, it was also very nice film, so I figured out at that time already. Okay. I want. To travel and work.
Emily: Oh, so that kind of sparked to that. Yes. In you.
Tobias: That's exactly, but then I came back and I was, I started studying . . So I started to study fitness economy which was a dual study. So I was working and studying at the same time. Okay. And I was mix of economics and fitness. So in that time I collected all the certificates, Uhhuh, for personal training.
And I also met very, very good people who brought me to what I am right now.
Emily: Amazing. Like mentors?
Tobias: You? Yes, I would say mentors and I was very lucky to meet them. And then. , I came to the point where I'm now . for being like a little unemployed, but also employed . on the basis, and I'm still figuring out what's the best for me right now.
Emily: Right, right. And so like, you came. So what, after you finished your studies, you said you were working alongside while you were studying. . . Right. Are you still working at that job now where you were before or
Tobias: No, no, no. Different kind of jobs. I also changed my job doing my studying and I also did like, because the study is quite low when you study and working center, I also had to pay for the university every month cause it.
Private University. Gotcha. So I was always finding ways to earn money. Uhhuh for me just to be independent from Australia, one for me. Yeah. And therefore I collected loads of experiences.
Emily: I say. Yeah. I have a curious question. What about people who study something completely different . , but they're like, Ooh, I'm interested in personal training.
Like, can, can, is, is it possible for someone not to actually go and study for years in this and become a personal trainer, do what you do?
Tobias: Definitely, yeah, I met like lots of people who didn't study any like sports science, anything like that, but they also became really good personal trainers for me, I would say.
The experience of working was much, much more important than actually go to university and study. I mean, my kind of study was build already to work a lot and not study that much. Gotcha. So, it was a good system for me to just grow. Yeah. And that's why I also can recommend just collecting certificates.
Yeah. And just being entered. Just having a passion for personal training. Yeah. Yeah. . I think it's with every kind of job. Yeah. I mean, if you're really passionate about what. Really wanted to do. . , then you can achieve a
Emily: lot. Uhhuh. Yeah. What do you love about personal training?
Tobias: I like people in general, not to say and, you know, personal training is something really personal, like it says .
of course, of course. And you really need the person. And you know pretty much everything. And if you reach goals together with them , you make like a huge,
Emily: you feel like impact. Yeah. And it feels like a joint success or something. Exactly.
Tobias: I mean, for you it doesn't feel that much because the other person has done other thing.
Yeah. But the other person will give you so much back. Yeah. Give you so much.
Emily: They feel so grateful. Helps them get there.
Tobias: Exactly. Yeah. And you feel so much happiness from them, like you really achieved them. Yeah. And. Not easy. It's a long way. Yeah. And it's really about like understanding people where they really want to go
Emily: because everyone's different.
Right. Exactly.
Tobias: Yeah. And where is the cause or why they're actually coming to you? . , is it only because they want to lose weight? Uhhuh ? Yeah. Is it on your, is it something deeper? Yeah. And then, and that for me is concentrated. Cause it's not about like, I don't know lifting weights or showing any kind of exercise.
. , it's about Yeah. A life. Right.
Emily: And I think when people think personal training, it's like, oh, you just help people like lift weights and like how to learn, teach them how to like, use the gym correctly, which, you know, it's important and you do. But like for you, would you say where with your clients there's a much more a much bigger component of like mindset as well, kind of like diving into that and not just like, Do the workout, but I also like taking the time to, I don't know, getting to what, what are some of their limiting beliefs and Yeah.
Tobias: The thing is actually everyone knows what is healthy and what is not healthy. Yeah. Actually everyone knows how to move and ever, you know? Yeah. But still why they're not doing
Emily: it. Yeah. What's the thing holding them back? Huh? And
Tobias: then, okay. Again, I think about the calls, why they're coming to you and for me, personal training is a lot about efficiency because you are straight away on the right track.
. , I mean, for me, not always, because you always need to understand, people always need to look what is the best exercise for them, but they're much, much, much, much closer. . with a personal trainer on their side than just in it by their own, much as closer to their fitness.
Emily: There's there like accountability.
There's somebody there like supporting them. I think
Tobias: especially in improves time when you need to build routines, then it's very important just to. , keep going with it. Yeah. Consistency. Yeah. And progress. These are the main basics, main conditions. . for yeah. Being healthy
Emily: training. Yeah. Okay.
So at the moment then you've got your own client base. So you, you kind of go off and do a little bit of freelancing. Now, would you say is like freelancing with your own clients? You are also working at a physiotherapist. . . And then you've also got live in motion. . , and I think you have one or two other aspects.
So, I think I'd be really curious to like, break that down. Like what are, you are both employed but you're both self-employed and kind of freelancing, so Yeah.
Tobias: So you have to think about like that it's self physical t where people are going to physical therapy, see, and they have an injury or anything.
. , where they. need certain when they need to do certain steps . to get healthy again. Gotcha. And of course, this therapist therapy is necessary . to get back into our performance. Gotcha. But most of the time it's not enough in the drum system. So they get, for example, six sessions per six sessions.
And after, they still need to continue. They still need to do something, you know, and Gotcha. And then me, I'm coming in to just build routine again with them. Just see, okay, where are they right now and where they need to go to.
Emily: Yeah, so like to give them extra care, like long term rather than short term.
Tobias: Exactly. Short of a journey. Gotcha. Where they can go when they do. Exercise.
Emily: Okay. And so that's the part where you kind of, freelance and, and then have your own clients for that?
Tobias: That's that I'm doing in RY as well. Gotcha. So they have like a gym where memberships and then they come from the studio into the gym, which is just, just connected.
Gotcha. And with the freelance of thing . , I. Other clients come in, for example, from other physical services, you're not where I'm applied on. Gotcha. Yeah. But they, sure they have the same system, but they don't have like a gym inside place service studio. Okay. So the same system. And also like of course people are coming to me who just want to keep it.
So they're doing a lot about prevention. . and general, I would say just Being healthy is the point of achieving the fitness goals. And not having like body builders or really extreme exams for them. . , but I'm having people who just care about their health. Yeah. That's the main thing I think about consciousness.
Really think about what is healthy for me and then
Emily: Yeah. Yeah. . Beautiful. And so like with live in motion then how did, because I know you, you started that like, not recently, recently, but like, say me what recently? Uhhuh . And like, what was the motivation to start live in motion? . and kind of what's your long term kind of, yeah.
Big vision for that.
Tobias: So for me, I always think of fitness a little different maybe than others do. So, I'm thinking about independency. I'm thinking about traveling. I'm thinking about personal training. So a lot of people have personal training where you meet every week, for example. Yeah, yeah.
And talking about the daily life. . , and I want to talk about progress, you know? . I, I'm not the person, I mean, sure. I can, and it's also part to get to know each other, to have like a good relationship. But for me, it's more about training. It's all about like, I don't know, talking about random stuff.
In your daily life. And therefore, I build little motion to. Build routine, build a community with others who are also in the same spirit. Yeah, yeah. Who who care about themselves and also building a mindset for happiness. Yeah. Yeah.
Emily: Happiness. Yeah. Beautiful. And is that something that you know, like in terms of long term, the bigger vision you kind of wanna make?
Take a bit more globally, kind of do, I know you've got some plans to do retreats and whatnot. Exactly. And also bring in people who, it's not just people who speak German or based in mines, but also kind of people from anywhere who kind of join this retreat and, and be part of the community, right?
Tobias: Correct. I want, I don't want to stick in a, in a, in a, . . I don't want to be in, in, in, in one part of, of a lifestyle. And I think it needs to Fitness is bigger than just going into one gym every day, of course. And there are so many other ways. For so, so many different ways how you can train and how you can train at home.
You can train, train in, in a playground, you can train at the beach in a gym. It always depends on your goal, of course, and actually where you want to go. I mean, it's okay if you go into a gym two, three times a week and you stay home because it's totally fine. . , but then there are other. You just want to be free, you know?
Yeah. And even know what to do when they're on holidays or even Absolutely. Want to have just a healthy lifestyle. Yeah. And I want to give them a method away. . how they're not dependent on anything, you know? Yeah. Yeah. How they just can reach their goals, whatever they do.
Emily: Yeah. Yeah, that's a really good point as well.
Just with the, the traveling side. And then same about tying it into your lifestyle of wanting to be a bit more location independent. So how, what's your plan in terms of. Taking your, what you do, your personal training so that you don't have to be physically present, because I know you talked about doing virtual online.
. personal training sessions and whatnot. Yeah. And so, yeah. What, what does
Tobias: So, first of all I really want to get to know each other. And of course if we can meet in person, of course it would be amazing, amazing . I listen to meet them. But on the other hand, I think talking online has also lots of benefits.
. , especially with the time and the location. Yeah. So I'm having. Consultations with them. . and first of all, they're like totally free. . , and they can just join. I need to know the people . and see if it, if it's a fit. Right. And when we're talking about the, the health .
and and then we're talking about what they. Think about . when they hear personal training . and they want to achieve,
Emily: of course. . . So do you already have you, you have clients who are phy physical clients. Do you already have also a client based that is only virtual? Yes. Okay, cool.
Tobias: And copper time. Yeah, it started right. So it started with online classes, everything out. So, but my goal is to be. To just meet more people also from. from outside of my hometown. . . Yeah. Just to make a bigger impact and just to, to yeah. See what is possible in there. Yeah. Definitely. And also do collect the people and meet at one point, for example.
Oh, that's, that's cool. In retreats. See when I'm talking again about health, nutrition workouts Yeah. And having a community so it doesn't. , it shouldn't not be only online. . . It should be also in a community where we meet at amazing places. Gotcha. We go together. Yeah. And cook together or whatever.
Totally. To build a community, but also be an independent and have like a. Have either free and, and you're free. About what you're doing and where you're going. Yeah. And,
Emily: Yeah, say the best of both worlds, how you get to reach that, that global reach, but then also that like connection of like the, from physical presence together.
Exactly. And so like with doing things virtually, obviously I can imagine certain challenges that comes with. That side of things. What are some of the biggest challenges that you've found? Like taking personal training, but like virtually . .
Tobias: So of course when you do group some training, for example, you show exercises.
In person it is a much closer feeling in general. So, yeah. You really can see like little things. . , but. online, for example. The good thing is if they just sent me a video of the exercise, what I'm doing, and I see . , what you can correct and it's not about perfection in general.
. , I to say it's about progress. . . So even if you dot exercise regularly, if you just like increase their weight then you will benefit from it. Yeah. So maybe in person . , you see just like little things more. Yeah. But. The online version is much more convenient. And it's
Emily: of both parties in a way, right?
Tobias: Yeah, exactly. It's. More efficient, I think. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You don't need to travel to the point. You don't need to. . , I don't know make normal appointments or you just come, come to the point . , what's it all about?
Emily: Exactly. And you can also do it from the comfort of your own home as well.
Yes. As well. Exactly.
Tobias: And I think that right now the technology's so good. Yes. Especially on the phone, for example. Do you a video, is that things fine? Yeah. Interesting. And still lot questions I can still ask. Okay. Can you send me that video? Can you, I dunno. And right now I'm working with an app.
Yeah. So people can just contact, contact me through a nap.
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. , is there like a difference between the clients who find you physically who wanna do physical in person Yeah. Versus the ones who wanna do virtual? Yeah,
Tobias: so in the past there were, it was just recommendations. Right. Friend therapists or other trainers. So they came to me and then it was mouth to mouth.
. . And now we are starting to do a little bit more advertisement. So, there's a website called Live Motion Do de Cool. Yeah,
Emily: I'll look that in the bio . Yeah.
Tobias: And also we sell it with Instagram. Social media is a live in motion community. and yeah, they find the latest projects, what we have and testimonials.
Yeah. Some clients.
Emily: Yeah. Cool. And so people can reach you through that as well? Exactly. Yeah. So
Tobias: they can see they're, they also get some information about training. Yeah. If they're interested and it's connected with. A blog, which is written on the website. Nice.
Emily: Nice. And yeah. And so, if people were to be interested in like, working with you should they send you a dm?
Is there, or I send you an email or something else, but that's thing always email, but I also answer on, okay. So in, is it info at David Motion? It's,
H A L L
Tobias: o H A L L O. Exactly. Live
Emily: Marshall Doty. Okay, cool. I'll be short on the bottom. Yeah. Cool. And so with your lifestyle, cuz you're balancing so many kind of different aspects of your job, cause I know you also teach now.
. , you, you kind of, have a teaching component as well. Like what how do you balance it all? Like what's the hardest thing about
Tobias: Yeah, so I give myself always a feedback. So this is the thing. So I'm always thinking about, okay, what can I optimize by myself? So my work to be more poppy. Yeah. And right now I'm to the point that I.
I on a basis . . So, so I'm employed, I'm also like working in school and I have the opportunity to travel. . , have the opportunity to create my own system . and so that's right now my way to go, but I'm always thinking about, okay, how am I feeling and what I really want to do, so, Am I going to travel a little bit more?
Yeah. And learning more remotely. So experimenting,
Emily: kind of you like
Tobias: Quest? Questioning myself. . a lot, all the time. Maybe too much. I
Emily: don't know. . No, me too. I know .
Tobias: But I think it's important to just know where you want to go and I. , you just need to main experience, right? Yeah. So you need to experience 100% employment.
You need to experience half of it. And you also need to experience like a , sorry. See the, you can really feel the benefits and the disadvantages of it. Yeah. So, I think that's it all about. And then there are d. Situations in life where he, where he need more, I dunno. Yeah. One of, one of it or the others.
Emily: Yeah. And, and so do you have a preference between kind of between being employed versus self-employed freelancing, or do you like the balance of having both
Tobias: the things? I have my own head. I have my own way about how I think, how I am thinking fitness. Okay. You know, and if you're employed, it is really important to surround yourself with the right people.
Who,
Emily: who kind of have the same big vision as you. Right. Exactly.
Tobias: Vision who want progress. So same with my clients. The clients want progress. And for my part, I also want progress and just move forward. Yeah. And you really need to find these people that sometimes takes time because you just don't meet them at the first moment.
Of course. Yeah. And but yeah. I want to work in an environment where the people around me have the same idea of fitness and the same idea of work.
Emily: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's so important cuz otherwise, You if you feel misaligned. It just, yes. It's
Tobias: hard. It's hard. I, I want a way how we communicate.
Yeah. I want the way, how we solve problems. I want a way how we treat each other. Yeah. And that should be
Emily: collectively shared.
Tobias: Yeah. Yeah. And, and only that work is sustainable in my, yeah, definitely in my case. And also it's very important for me. . to have like, This environment where I share with other people so that the other peoples are getting , I'm getting a boost.
I getting, you know, , they can, they can fulfill themselves and yeah. See,
Emily: and so with this, like, you know, for somebody who's interested in this lifestyle, who's kind of like, oh, I, you know, I'm really interested in being a personal trainer, and, but they. Have always questioned about the flexibility of it or being, you know, independent or being location independent and whatnot.
What are, you know, now that you are kind of experience this world, what are some of the myths . of this lifestyle that you have kind of now? Proven wrong.
Tobias: The foundation is knowledge, of course. And by the way, I'm also working as a teacher for people who wants to become a personal trainer.
Gotcha. Yeah. I'm writing a book right now about it as well, . And so it shows you away and it also, . So I showed them the knowledge. Uhhuh, what is the foundation about to know? Being a personal trainer Gotcha. Business wise and also Yeah. Science. Yeah.
Emily: And so what are some of the things that people are like, oh what, what are some of the myths?
Like they think that you have to be like this, or they think. It has to be like this, but actually it doesn't have to be like, what are some of the myths? Yeah, myths that you, you get to show people. Yeah.
Tobias: I think one big thing is less and more. Ooh.
Emily: In what way? What do you mean?
Tobias: About exercising. So people are working, working out for like hours and they do doing step three and four before one and two.
You know what I mean? So it's about working on smart. It's about not. , it's about progress and not choosing the highest weights, uhhuh at the beginning, you know, Uhhuh, , but you really need to see the difference the first training and at the last training, you know? Yeah. And at the beginning it's easy, you know, if you haven't worked out yet, then everything actually what you do works.
Yeah. Yeah. But if it comes to a certain point, then you reach just the level where you. Don't step further. Yeah. You always need to get out of your comfort zone. Same life. You need to do something different. This like a move, I would say. And it's not about being strict with diet. It's not about don't know, doing loads and loads of exercise, doing, I don't know.
A hundred push outs. Yeah. Thousand crunches or anything like that. It's about working outs mind. Yeah.
Emily: And like as a personal trainer, for example, like when you first started, could you imagine that your life is what it is now? Like getting to, I don't know run live motion and start planning retreats and whatnot?
Like for somebody who's wanting to kind of. Step into your shoes sort of thing and have a similar lifestyle. . . Maybe what are some of the things they're thinking that it's not possible to travel with personal training? Is that, would you say that's one of a big myths as well?
Tobias: Yeah. So first when I jump into the small business, I wasn't thinking like that, I have to say.
Oh, okay. Yeah. So, for me, personal training was always a personal, training was always something. How'd you say Doji or, oh, interesting.
Emily: Ok. In what way? Like, like you wouldn't get into that. Yeah. Is it
Tobias: like, is it that guy who is in the US working out with, dunno, celebrities at the beach? .
Emily: Oh, ok. That is that for real?
This is not me actually.
Tobias: I see. And its actually not like that because working out with people who really wants. To be who, who wants to become, I don't know, fit. It's not about working out with the fittest people on earth, you know? Ah, okay. Okay. So in my case, there are others who will work out with leads, but in general, I would say okay, it's working out with people have never, or
Emily: just started out working out.
Yeah. Yeah.
Tobias: And so, but I came to the point where I. Just thinking about training, you know, and I was lucky. I'm met the right person who are also very thinking about work, thinking about what they do, and always feedback in themselves Yeah. About what to do better. And so that kind of mentality came also to me.
So, Then I decided, okay, we can do something different. Yeah. We can jump into a next level. And yeah, this is very
Emily: interesting. Nice. And so like, you know, I know that traveling and living abroad is you, you really value that. And we were having conversation the other day about like why traveling is so important and why you should like be out of your comfort zone.
But, but yeah, like why, for you personally, like why is. Traveling, being out of your comfort zone. So important. Like what has that given you? Yeah. What are some of the biggest lessons you've kind of taken away from that? So the
Tobias: first swing thing, why I did it was curiosity. Oh yeah. I was just thinking, okay, how I do others?
. The thing that I do right now and do. , I met so many people. I got so many nice experience of clients. Of colleagues. Of managers. . , who really learn about, and I tried to pick out the best from them. . and yeah, that was making me really happy to just see something different and just.
See different cultures working in which other see pe, how the people behave in a working atmosphere. See, and this is so different sometimes to your job. Where you're actually coming from and that gives you so much energy for new projects. Yeah. Where you can see Okay. How work can be, yeah.
. , it's not about earning a lot of money or getting I don't know a high position in, in your job. . also, it's about the how. Yeah. Yeah. It's how our thing can. Work, it can grow. And that was so nice to see when I was traveling and working at
Emily: the nice. And also the why as well. The other.
Side of our conversation on that was the, which that I, it was, I'm really curious about. It's kind of like the brain neurons, you know, like when you're, when you're challenging yourself. Like, I remember I had a biology teacher at school and she started playing the piano when she was like, almost 60. And she said, oh, it's really good to like, challenge yourself, to challenge your brain because you , your neurons, you kind of train it for long.
Well, it's just you train it better, there's more connections. Right. And then you kind of brought up something about like, people who, and correct if I'm wrong, people who like play an instrument or kind of take themselves out of their comfort zone and constantly living there, they have. Or decrease risk of dementia or something.
Right. Because their, their brain is, is, is so used to constantly making new connections. So it's not losing that practice, that training. Exactly.
Tobias: So actually that's what I love about training because it shows you away how to act. In your daily life, right? Yeah. So as an example you always need to increase your weight to progress, for example.
So you need to push yourself out of com, comfort zone, anytime. Yeah. And it's same alive like you just said. Yeah. You need to challenge yourself, yourself. your son just a little. Not too much Yeah. But just a little to grow, right? Yeah. And Dennis. Such a good advice and there are thousand of advices when you look into personal training or into training itself.
Yeah. That it gives you so much more than just the body you want to have than, than just the routine, which is making you more healthy, you know? . , it shows you away how. You're going to live your life Yeah. To be happy. Yeah. And if you understand this, then it's really mind blowing . Yeah.
Emily: Yeah. And like with this, this kind of like being out of your comfort zone.
Like if you are always in your comfort zone, you're never really quite growing. Are you? And and so to push yourself out, the only way to grow is to continuously be out on the edge of your comfort zone and to keep pushing yourself. Exactly. I would same with training, like you said, like you grow slowly.
If you just chuck yourself out into the DFA and add like 20 kgs, you're gonna die. Like you're gonna hurt yourself.
Tobias: And isn't it fascinating that if you just go into your training and then you do these little changes and then we can take it. Will view to your life. Totally. Yeah. And what going to me, a personal training and for example, increasing the weight.
Yeah. Awake doesn't need to, it, it, it's not like a huge effort for you, you know, for you. But, If you have done this, you experience something. . , you know? Yeah. You experience that you got stronger. Yeah. And if you have this way of thinking, if you experience that, then you know in your life, Kay, with Tobi, I experienced that.
I can do more than I actually thought.
Emily: Ah. See? You know what I mean?
Tobias: That's, yeah. And then you decide, okay, maybe you decide, okay, now maybe I. do something else. . , you know? . , I can, it gives you more I
Emily: can't thought about. Gotcha. Cause it gives you more confidence. And that's the whole thing about it.
It's like the, if you are outside of your comfort zone more, and then you find yourself somewhere in a situation where , you know, either it's challenging or not challenging, just things feel easier, things feel more achievable because you have learned how to deal with stresses, how to deal with being outside your comfort zone.
And then when you're traveling, when you're working overseas or I don't know looking to start your own business for example, everything seems more achievable. Cause you're so used to being outside your comfort zone. Right? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. So, so to somebody, You know, what would your advice be to somebody who is thinking about or is on the way working towards living and working abroad as a personal trainer?
Tobias: . .
So, yeah, living and working abroad. So the first thing, of course, is about, okay. , what work am I going to do? . . Yeah. So what personal training I am going to be, right. And what kind of service I, I want to offer. . . Yeah. So do you want to do one-on-one sessions? Do you want to teach classes?
. or whatever, and then having a plan, having a destination on wherever and see. Okay. . That's my plan, my work suits. . , to what I want to do in the future. Yeah. So if, for example, if you want to live abroad and for example, I don't know, it's Italy, so . , then you need have like a plan.
Okay. If you do. If you want to teach classes and you go on into a city where there are lots of, for example, sport, hotels, gyms, or whatever, and c k, what kind of classes are they offering and can I really give them a benefit, for
Emily: example? Yeah, yeah. Right,
Tobias: right. Or also build a little bit like not a company, but just like.
Go solo. Yeah, go solo And just make progress with clients And Uhhuh place where you're at now. Yeah. And think about Okay. How I can still, how do, can still benefit from your, actually, even if you want to live abroad. Yeah. Does the systems used to my clients where I have right now. For example, if you have a, just like old clients who not even can use a phone or a computer, it doesn't make sense to go online with them.
Yeah. So, yeah, of course. You really need understand. Yeah. You need to find what really suits. You personally, what do you really want to do when you live abroad or, and also suit the clients you are trying to work with.
Emily: Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. And so, like for you personally in your lifetime, this is a bit a hard question, , what is one of the best advice you've ever received?
That kind of, ah, yes.
Tobias: Yeah. So, Harle, he was a manager of whole low famous one. Ah, and I asked him what is the best advice for people who work on whole hotel, people who are working in general services. . , and he said to be you have to make people in Germany is the s He said to me, mum must mention moon
Yeah. I think this is always good advice because it's. Job where you're working with people. . And you really need to like
Emily: people. And what if people don't, and what if they don't like people? What? It's a personal trainer who doesn't like per people. It's, it's . Yeah. I think
Tobias: I really, really want to, you really want to hub, you know, of course this, this is the main thing.
Yeah. Yes. And It's about progress, it's about building routines and you cannot do this if you actually might connecting to the, to the
Emily: place. And people feel it as well, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's so exciting. Well, thank you Tobi, for joining me on this podcast. What are some of the upcoming projects or things that people can, if they're interested in joining or they're interested in, you know, just following along, what are.
Some things you've got on this year. Okay, so
Tobias: our new retreat is coming soon in severe it'll probably. Start in September, October, November at that time. . . And also I'm going to do classes at my hometown. . , and yeah. Yes, maybe like new projects as well. Yeah. I cannot even talk that much about it.
But there will be also cool projects. Cool events.
Emily: Yeah. So exciting. So what's the best place for people to follow you? Like personal kinda Instagram or Yes
Tobias: can though I live in Hanco community. And then get in touch. The website. Yeah. Cool. And then just text us an email Yeah. And then get in touch and maybe we can, Yeah.
Get to know each other. Yeah.
Emily: And be cool. Yay. Cool. The retreats great. We're super excited to be planning that as well. Yeah. So, yeah. Thank you so much, Terry, for joining me. Such a pleasure.
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